Southeastern Massachusetts
Commuter Rail Task Force
DRAFT
Minutes of January 11, 2006
at the SEED Office, 4:00 PM
Members Present:
Robert Overholtzer, OCPC Robert
W. Carney, Dartmouth
David A.
Tibbetts, South Coast
on Track Martha
White, Easton
Richard Shafer,
Taunton IDC William Roch, Jr., Fairhaven
John Bullard, Vision 2020 James
Hartnett, Fall River
Reinald Ledoux, Jr., BAT Richard
McCarthy, Raynham
Francis Gay, GATRA Lou
Gitto, Stoughton
William Clark, MAPC
Dr. Susan Peterson, SRPEDD
Mike Ferreira, FROED
Peter Kortright, Fall River
Area Chamber
Diana Shearstone, Taunton
Area Chamber
Others Present:
Kyla Bennett, PEER Linda
Grubb, Lakeville and FARE
George Johnson, RI Statewide Planning Pamela Sherrill, Pare Engineering
Steve Cecil, The Cecil Group Ken
Buckland, The Cecil Group
Don Walsh, CURP Pat
Ciaramella,
OCPC Ed Coviello, OCPC Stephen
Smith, SRPEDD
Louise Daley, SRPEDD Roland
Hebert, SRPEDD
Greg Guimond, SRPEDD Marijoan
Bull, SRPEDD
1. Call to Order
Chairman John Bullard called the meeting to order at 4:10 PM.
Chairman Bullard noted the contributions of resigning
Lakeville Selectman Chawner Hurd, whose participation will be missed.
2. Minutes of
Meeting, November 16, 2005
It was voted unanimously to accept the minutes of November 16, 2005.
3.
Presentation: “Using Commuter
Rail to Shape Regional Growth”
George Johnson, Assistant Chief of the Rhode Island
Statewide Planning Program and Pamela Sherrill of Pare Engineering gave a
presentation of a report titled “Washington County Transit Oriented Development
Planning Strategy”. Rhode Island DOT is
working to extend the MBTA commuter rail service from Providence
to Wickford Junction in the Town of North Kingstown,
and potentially to Westerly. This study looked at the potential for TOD at
the stations in order to address growth concerns from rail. This study, initiated due to the proposed
rail service, has provided an opportunity to have a dialogue with the region
about growth and the value of proactively preparing for it.
Pare
Engineering prepared the final report, which is on the Statewide
planning website. Ms. Sherrill stated
the three objectives of the study as: 1)
assess the advantages of the commuter rail extension; 2) assess the development
potential within a five-mile/10-minute drive of the stations; and 3) consider
the appropriateness of transit oriented and transit supportive development
around the stations. The report also
presents management strategies that can promote smart growth concepts in Washington County.
Lessons from this study are the importance of
involving and informing the public. When the final concepts were presented,
communities expressed a desire to preserve open space and to maintain housing
affordability; yet, they also expressed a fear of density and growth. Mr. Bullard asked if the communities fear
density and growth, who wants commuter rail?
Mr. Johnson answered that people dealing with traffic want it. There has also been positive response from
environmental groups such as Audobon and supporters of increased economic
development and mobility. Mr. Bullard
asked if there was any interest in east-west travel by rail. Ms. Sherrill replied that there is interest
in commuting from Fall River to Quonset and Fall River to Newport.
Steve Smith added that traffic counts on I-195 show large
increases.
Peter Kortright asked about the projected
start date of 2008 for rail to Washington County. Ms.
Sherrill stated that the tracks exist as part of the northeast corridor. Rhode Island just needs to acquire the rolling stock at a
cost of $5-7 million. The MBTA likes the
extension project because it gets to sell one seat twice (presumably from Washington County to Providence and Providence to Boston). Ed Coviello asked about the capacity problem on the
northeast corridor and the conflict of diesel engines and high-speed Amtrak
trains. Ms. Sherrill said that an
Operations Plan was done on that. She
agreed it is very tight.
4. Fall River:
Plans for Waterfront and Train Station Development
Ken Buckland introduced a presentation of a Fall River waterfront study done by The Cecil
Group. He referred to a graphic of the
waterfront area that includes what is essentially a TOD with medium to high
density, pedestrian orientation and high quality design. Mr. Buckland noted that Fall River’s population at its peak was 130,000 but it
is now at 91,000. He pointed out that
the structure for more people is still there in the layout of the city, I-195
and the waterway.
Steve Cecil emphasized the new value found in
waterfronts. He presented a graphic of a
concept plan, which transforms Route 79 and Davol Street into a pedestrian-friendly boulevard,
opening up land for economic development.
The City’s plan for the waterfront is for mixed uses that will draw
people to it and also support water-dependent industries. The MBTA has plans to build two commuter rail stations near the waterfront, which have been
incorporated into the City’s plans for the area. The station locations are within walking
distance or a short drive from existing population density. Planning involves lining up the necessary
investments to implement the plan. The
City can avoid sprawl by laying the groundwork before transit occurs.
Mike Ferreira added that the projects that are part of the
City’s waterfront plan are going along even without the train stations, but the
stations will enhance the area. $5
million is secured for the Route 79 project and a feasibility study is
underway. A mixed use development is planned
for the 8-10 acres that will be opened up on the waterfront. A boardwalk and cultural park are
completed. A new multi-use State Pier
Facility is in the works. A 500-space
surface parking lot is planned for Davol Street.
Mr. Bullard asked about bus transportation to the
stations. Jim Hartnett said the City
needs to find a new bus station location with the planned courthouse taking the
present station property. There is no
room to locate it with the planned MBTA station, but there will be a bus dropoff
there.
Mr. Bullard noted that the message from Fall
River and New Bedford
is that these mixed use, transit oriented development designs work. Rail makes them better. Mr. Cecil gave the example of Concord,
New Hampshire for rail station planning. He emphasized the need for the right location
and avoiding large parking facilities. A
community needs to talk about what they want.
They may want two stations near each other and should plan for
that. Intermodalism is also
important. Sometimes a shuttle or a
route connection is adequate and makes sense.
Bringing all vehicles together may create conflict.
Mr. Cecil added that in both Fall River
and New Bedford, there is a bunch
of land in the right place along the waterfront. Whatever is done will create jobs, and
transportation connections will be important.
Mr. Kortright asked if there were other opportunities in Fall
River that were considered for MBTA stations. Mr. Cecil said the proposed stations are in
the right place based on walking distances, the topography, neighborhoods, and
amount of available space. He pointed
out that growth projections in southeastern Massachusetts
and the state as a whole show that new growth in this region is really about
rearranging the furniture rather than new growth in the state. Often, we are attempting to build smart
growth, and we tend to look at the rail line as an opportunity for new dense
development. But we ought to look at areas
that are already built out, under-populated relative to what they used to be,
and make sure stations are supported there.
Mr. Bullard asked about Fall River’s
perspective on housing affordability.
Mr. Hartnett stated that more than 250 condos were approved in the past
eighteen months and 100 single family house lots were approved in the last
year—all at the low end of the housing market.
Mr. Bullard added that prices are up without any rail and building more
supply is a solution. Linda Grubb asked
about plans for “daylighting” the falls.
Mr. Cecil said there is no foreseeable time frame or budget; however,
the Route 79 realignment will not preclude the idea. Mr. Buckland offered the case studies of
Beverly and Salem with Beverly as an example of an unsuccessful downtown even
though the rail station is there, and Salem as a success story.
5. Nomination of
future train station for TOD analysis
Stoughton will be discussed two meetings from now. Steve Smith suggested that Attleboro’s
intermodal facility proposals could be presented at the next meeting.
6. Work Program
Progress Report
Greg Guimond reported that he is updating land uses in four
communities along the rail, using 2000 and 2004 orthophotos, overlaying them on
what was already developed. This work
will determine the potential number of lots and units for development in the
corridor, as an update to the buildout potential. Marijoan Bull is working on the regional
draft corridor study (Task 3) and will present a draft of it at the next
meeting. As part of Task 4—the more site
specific TOD work, – SRPEDD may do more work with Fall River, Raynham, or the
second Taunton site (behind Target). Ms.
Bull gave a preview of some of the information
she’s gathered. Between 1990 and 2000,
Fall River’s workforce declined by less than 1%, but the number of commuters to
Boston and Cambridge proper increased by 66%.
She will give a report in March.
7. Future meetings
The next meeting is March 8, 2006 and the following meeting
will be May 10, 2006.
Ms. Bull will present a draft of Task 3, the regional
corridor study, at the next meeting.
Louise Daley may do a presentation on the Stapleton, Colorado TOD. OCPC has more information
as well from Task 2.
8. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 5:52 PM.